Episodes

Aug. 11, 2022

89: Mo' Problems, Mo' Money - Understanding On-Call Pay for the Police

Recently, a 12-member jury delivered a verdict against officers of the Louisville (Kentucky) Metro Police Department's SWAT team. The lawsuit was filed by the officers in 2016 and sought millions of dollars of back pay for "on-call" time, dating back to 2002. The case garnered much attention in the police world based upon its potential impact to work-life balance, as well as the ability to obtain additional compensation for special skills and assignments while in service to their communities. T...
Aug. 4, 2022

88: The Warrior vs. Guardian Cop

This week, the boys from 3CT provide some personal perspectives regarding the ongoing debate surrounding police officers acting as either “guardians” or “warriors” in service to their communities. They discuss the concepts associated with each mindset and how they don’t necessarily need to be mutually exclusive. They also offer sone thoughts on how a proper balance of the two may help to better address the modern challenges faced by both the police and the communities that they serve.
July 29, 2022

87: Limitless Momentum with Officer Ariana Stone

3CT meets with a fellow cop that literally puts her challenging experiences as a police officer to aid the communities that we all serve. The guys have an entertaining conversation with Entrepreneur and Police Officer, Ariana Stone, about how she formed a clothing line that donates a percentage of its earnings to the mental health community. Officer Stone hopes to shed light on one of the longest-standing factors impacting our world by asking everyone a question common among cops; “Are You Good...
July 21, 2022

86: How "Being Offended" Impacts Our Society And Keeps Us Divided

Chris and Shaun discuss how the perpetual “culture of offense” impacts the current state of our deeply divided society. Initially, they provide examples of how often innocuous events and words can be contaminated through the low-level triggers of offense that often to distract us from a real issues. Later in the conversation, they cover how common it has become for the mere indication of “offense” to allow for misinformation to grow and eventually destroy logical responses during any debate. Fi...
July 14, 2022

85: Then and Now: Starting Over As a Cop

Starting over as a cop can be challenging, but for many officers, it’s a great way to grow both professionally and personally. After retiring with over 20 years of law enforcement experience, Chris and Shaun discuss their decisions to relocate from the Chicago area and to continue their police careers in the southeastern United States. Chris details his second run at field training and how he now approaches the process as an accomplished “rookie.” As a recent police applicant, Shaun discusses...
July 9, 2022

84: Leadership Through Crisis

On this week’s show, Chris and Shaun welcome back Retired Chief Tony Pustizzi (Episode 58): https://www.buzzsprout.com/1342087/episodes/9698408 Chief Pustizzi discusses some of the reported leadership issues associated with the tragic school shooting that occurred at the Robb Elementary School on May 24th, 2022 in Uvalde, Texas. Chief Pustizzi’s shares his unique and unfortunate experiences in the realm of school shooter response to shed some better light on some of the crisis leadership that ...
June 30, 2022

83: Hot Sauce, Summer in the City

This week’s stranger-than-fiction-dispatch finds the boys from 3CT addressing a real-world call involving the unreasonable use of a particularly spicy condiment on a subject’s body part that should normally garner a significant expectation of privacy. The guys then discuss their favorite season- Riot season! The warmer summer weather often lends itself to more civil unrest, with a higher frequency of mass gatherings and the unhinged rhetoric that regularly accompanies modern political disconten...
June 24, 2022

82: The Buck Stops There and the Pride of Exclusion

After opening with another installment of “Stranger-than-Fiction Dispatch Theater,” the guys from 3CT offer their thoughts on the Uvalde, Texas Police Chief’s first public statements regarding the tragic school shooting that occurred at the Robb Elementary School on May 24th, 2022. They provide a line-level cop’s point of view regarding the Chief’s deflecting statements surrounding his individual and agency’s actions during the incident. They then close with the confusing trend of risking publi...
June 16, 2022

81: A Democracy, While It Lasts...

On this episode, all of the boys get together and respond to a “stranger-than-fiction dispatch” to humorously illustrate the all-too-common calls that police officers regularly receive. The conversation then transitions to the dangers of society’s selective indifference surrounding the regular murder of police officers and how that type of threat to a civil society likely won’t end there. They discuss how the unhealthy political divisions in America are undermining democracy as illustrated thro...
June 6, 2022

80: The Uvalde Shooting, and Orlando Podfest Update

On this episode, Chris and Shaun discuss their experiences at Podfest 2022 in Orlando, Florida and also how the full story from the tragic Uvalde School Shooting has yet to be told. They also ponder why we can’t seemed to stay focused long enough to present viable solutions, rooted in common sense and cooperation, to better address these problems.
May 24, 2022

79: 2 Cops Vent

On this episode, Scott and Shaun lampoon some current events that are likely distracting us from the more pressing issues truly facing our society. They air some of their personal and professional frustrations but also point a way forward through these trying days.
May 12, 2022

78: “Hopecasting” with Rachel Flick

On this episode, Scott and Shaun welcome to 3CT, mother, widowed police wife, writer, counselor and fellow podcast host, Rachel Flick. Rachel discusses her on-going inspirational journey through grief and emotional growth due to the loss of her husband, Deputy Sheriff Micah Flick of the El Paso County, Colorado Sheriff’s Office. Rachel also provides a realistic and frank example of resilience to anyone that has experienced any tragedy or hardship. Rachael tragically lost her husband of ten year...
May 2, 2022

77: Criminal Justice Course Correction?

This week’s episode of 3CT has guys discussing the confusing lack of incessant media coverage of two recent high-profile and concerning incidents related to crime and police accountability. They also delve into the realities we currently face with the now politically liable “anti-police” and “soft-on-crime” positions and what it may take to bring policing to the proper place it belongs in a safe and free society. They also answer a listener’s questions and talk about their favorite “disguises.”
April 22, 2022

76: Discussing The Grand Rapids Shooting, with Dave Smith

Renowned police trainer, Dave Smith, rejoins 3CT to provide some perspective on the officer involved shooting of Patrick Loyoya in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Dave discusses the need to consider all of the circumstances beyond the often inaccurate and harmful media narratives of policing and race in America. He helps to shed light on some of the possible issues that surround these unfortunate circumstances and what may be done to help avoid future police/civilian encounters of a similar nature. Fu...
April 16, 2022

75: Reacting To The Grand Rapids Shooting

Shaun provides us with some quick programming notes for the state of the podcast, recognizes our 911 Dispatchers and acknowledges the need to further discuss the officer involved shooting in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He also does a horrible impression of Marlon Brando as Colonel Kurtz from the film Apocalypse Now. Check it out, then catch up on some old episodes and leave us a rating and review. Click here: 1. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/3-cops-talk-rebuilding-community-trust/id153863...
March 31, 2022

74: The Power of Perspective, with Sergeant Bob Christopherson

This episode reunites the guys from 3CT with their long-time police academy friend, Sergeant Bob Christopherson. Bob is a veteran police officer that recounts how he and his wife weathered the premature birth of their twin daughters, the significant health issues his family faced throughout, and the eventual passing of one of the twins. Bob chronicles both the tragedy and the triumphs that he and his wife experienced and how they widened their “family” and became more resilient in the process. ...
March 26, 2022

73: Avoiding Financial Scams

This week, the guys from 3CT discuss the methodology of some of the most common financial scams and how to avoid them. They also offer some insight and experience on how and who the criminals target when committing financial fraud. Tax season in the United States opens an annual window of opportunity for financial criminals worldwide, so this show is a must listen! Check it out and leave us your thoughts at: 3copstalk@gmail.com https://www.justice.gov/archives/stopfraud-archive/elder-fraud-and-f...
March 17, 2022

72: What’s the Deal with Confrontations?

This week’s episode is a mix of nostalgia and commentary that covers the expanse of grand-parental interior design, dentistry and the need to return to a balanced approach of dealing with violence and human confrontation. The boys also discuss how some of the conditions of our current social construct have helped to remove the realities of accountability and simply “doing what’s right.” There’s also audio confirmation of the existence of the third wife! It’s a less than traditional show that is ...
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March 11, 2022

71: The Blue Divide with Author Will Moravits

On this week’s episode, the boys from 3CT talk with former police officer, author and professor Will Moravits about his recently published book, The Blue Divide; Policing and Race in America. Will discusses his police roots, his eventual transition to academia and some of his experiences from both of these often-polarized worlds. He hopes to better educate the public and the police on the facts behind some of the most controversial cases involving race and policing in the United States. Much l...
Guest: Will Moravits
March 4, 2022

70: The Difficult Conversation of Police Suicide

On this episode, Scott and Shaun welcome Police Officer Shaun “Sus” Susnis to begin the difficult conversation surrounding police suicide. Sus and the boys discuss some of the conditions both inside and outside of the profession that, in some cases, places police officers at a 60% higher chance of taking their own lives than any other profession. Police Officers also die by their own hands at twice the rate they do by that of violent offenders. In the United States, Police Officers in small to m...
Feb. 24, 2022

69: All in the First Responder Family with Michelle Fayed of the Florida Firefighter Safety & Health Collaborative

This week, 3CT welcomes our first guest from the Fire Service, Fire Fighter Paramedic Michelle Fayed. We immediately launch into the well-established Police vs Fire “sibling rivalry” that exists within the first responder family. Throughout the show, Michelle humorously proves herself a worthy rival (and sister) as she misses no opportunity to tease her older “cop” brothers in describing both the professional and personal experiences that helped to make her the dedicated medic, fire fighter and ...
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Feb. 17, 2022

68: Interpreting Police Statistics with Bob Scales of Police Strategies LLC, Part 2

On this week’s episode, we are again joined from Seattle by the CEO of Police Strategies LLC, Bob “Bobby Stats” Scales. We pick up from Episode 64 and examine how the current lack of useable data to analyze use-of-force incidents undermines the message and mission of many police agencies in the United States. We then discuss how more in-depth use-of-force data evaluation is desperately needed to help counter the inaccurate third-party analyses that have often been presented as “factual” by the ...
Feb. 10, 2022

67: Go West, Young Man! (with Sergeant Kevin Ameiss)

This week, Scott and Shaun welcome Sergeant Kevin Ameiss to the show to discuss his service as a police officer in the Southwestern United States. Kevin recounts his college friendship with Scott, and his move as a young man, from the Land of Lincoln to the Grand Canyon State. He then discusses how he took advantage of the migration to an expanding region and the professional opportunities it created for him in the field of law enforcement. This is a great listen for both prospective and experie...
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Feb. 2, 2022

66: Drawing on Your Talents with Officer Joseph Arnold

This week, the boys from 3CT are joined by Police Officer and professional animator, Joseph Arnold, to help promote his artistic contribution to the soon to be released fictional graphic novel, The Thin Blue Line. Joe and the guys discuss his personal, professional and artistic experiences and how these all helped shaped his participation in this unique project. We also learn how Joe worked with award winning writer Mike Baron, best known for his acclaimed contributions to Marvel Comics' The Pun...